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Go Ahead PUNK, Make My Day...

Punker Than You!
By Dead Air, Section Entertainment
Posted on Wed Sep 26th, 2001 at 04:15:23 PM PDT
What is it about Satanosphere that seems to be a magnet for those who think they are punk, while spending all their time exalting cheesy art-butt rock bands like Iron Maiden? Where's the Beef? And where oh, where is the real fucking PUNK? I don't want to subject anybody to Top Ten lists here, those aren't punk, they're too fucking long and boring, Sidney, boring. Lets have a top 6 instead. Do you think you can handle that kiddies?

Punk of course has rules, and the rules are you have to be really punk. So think real hard and come up with the 6 best punk rock albums that aren't heavy metal. Hell, my 7th choice might even be Ace of Spades by Motorhead, but who the fuck cares? Think Punk. Post-punk is o.k. as long as it's really punky. And no wimpy jocky NOFX bullshit either. And the first fool to say Murder City Devils gets pissed on too.

Here's Mine:

1. Ramones - Rocket to Russia

2. Clash - the Clash

3. Iggy & the Stooges - Raw Power

4. Sex Pistols - Never Mind the Bullocks

5. Minor Threat - Complete Discography

6. Sonic Youth - Confusion is Sex

Now it's your turn. Use the Comments you stupid fuck! Write your top 6. And this is the PERFECT time to rate each other's Comments too. That's what punk is after all, one big Comment Rating party.

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Who's the Punkest?
Ramones
Pistols
Clash
Dead Kennedys
Black Flag
Minor Threat
Fugazi
Bikini Kill
X
The Ex
Exploited
Dead Boys
Damned
Dead Moon
Wipers

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Addendums (4.50 / 2) (#1)
by Paul Shrug (paulshrug@YourSadCareerAsASpammer.gmail.com) on Tue Sep 25th, 2001 at 10:42:10 PM PDT
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The first of what is sure to be a long list of suggestions:

"The New York Dolls"

"The Great Rock 'n' Roll Swindle" - Sex Pistols **Practically a handbook, and in a lot of ways more punk than the official release

The first FOUR Ramones albums

Bikini Kill's ouevre

"We Are the League" - Anti-Nowhere League


--Shrug
Now Doing Weddings And Irony



Hmm... (none / 0) (#4)
by Dead Air (deadair3@lycos.com) on Wed Sep 26th, 2001 at 01:23:33 AM PDT
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I guess glam is not nescessarily metal, even though the Doll are responsible for giving us Hanoi Rocks, W.A.S.P. (Blackie Lawless actually played in a Dolls reunion line-up,) Ratt, and countless other pretty mispellers. I actually saw a 1972 LA concert (that you can rent at Rainy Day if you are Olycentric) where Johansen actually referred to them as a punk group. Nonetheless, I have to beg to differ on the albums punkness. Todd Rundgren horribly over-produced the album so that it sounds almost like his own art pop group Utopia.

Oddly, I do things other places.
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NYD (none / 0) (#9)
by Paul Shrug (paulshrug@YourSadCareerAsASpammer.gmail.com) on Wed Sep 26th, 2001 at 07:13:37 AM PDT
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I'm kinda borderline on this one myself, but I do shove the Dolls into the punk category, if for no reason than they predated the Ramones, crossed paths with a lot of luminaries, alienated the cock-rock establishment, and had the balls to dress up in women's clothing while gleefully going out with the most beautiful women in New York during their tenure. That's just great. And, come on, "Personality Crisis"...

But your over-production notes on Todd are, as Don Yates would have said, "an excellent point." I still love the record, though.

--Shrug
Now Doing Weddings And Irony
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And to answer the poll question... (3.50 / 2) (#2)
by Paul Shrug (paulshrug@YourSadCareerAsASpammer.gmail.com) on Tue Sep 25th, 2001 at 10:52:39 PM PDT
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The Ramones. They weren't ground zero, but they set the table and generally didn't change that much over the course of their career.

The Sex Pistols weren't because they were run by a fashion expert, although they exhibited more punkish behavior more frequently, but it was usually just Sid.

The Clash weren't the punkest because they turned into a pan-rock band by the end of their career.

The Damned have been trying to be goth since they found out their name had something to do with the afterlife.

Iggy and the Stooges are a close second to the Ramones. But I still go with them. Sentimental vote, I guess.

--Shrug
Now Doing Weddings And Irony



Yes, the Dead Kennedies... (none / 0) (#3)
by femmefierce (towncrier@drunkytown.com) on Wed Sep 26th, 2001 at 01:03:27 AM PDT
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.....even though it's spelled Kennedys. I'd also like to thank Dead Air for remembering how punk Sonic Youth was and still is. They are often overlooked, especially their earlier work, which is fucking amazing!



For Their Sake and not Mine... (none / 0) (#5)
by Dead Air (deadair3@lycos.com) on Wed Sep 26th, 2001 at 01:26:25 AM PDT
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...I've gone back and corrected the spelling. Thanks.

But, now where's your top 6 album list?

Oddly, I do things other places.
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DK's (none / 0) (#10)
by Paul Shrug (paulshrug@YourSadCareerAsASpammer.gmail.com) on Wed Sep 26th, 2001 at 07:24:03 AM PDT
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As I write this, they're leading the poll. And don't get me wrong, I love them and think Jello's still a vital force in intellectualism and progressive thinking.

But "punkest?" No way. If only because their post-breakup history has devolved into the kind of legal pissing contests that might get Pink Floyd's lawyers off, but nobody else.

We can argue about how many guitars you must smash, how many cuss words you can say on British television, how many nod-offs you've had in interviews, etc. etc. It's hard to say what punk was about (note the past tense) but very easy to say what it was against. But the image of punk rock to me, subjectively speaking, is pretty simple: Iggy Pop doing an entire set with a gaping chest wound, and not knowing about it until someone forced him down for a Band-Aid. It's also the blase "1-2-3-4" of the Ramones. The Kennedys were just too smart. The greatest punk rejects intellectualism. NOT great punk -- the DK's were great punk -- but the greatest punk. It's nihilism. The DK's always held a promise. They had ideas. They probably could build things. They weren't strictly nihilistic.

But that's just me. Plenty of other very well-informed SOS'ers have excellent rebuttals waiting to go.

--Shrug
Now Doing Weddings And Irony
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Sonic Youth (none / 0) (#11)
by Paul Shrug (paulshrug@YourSadCareerAsASpammer.gmail.com) on Wed Sep 26th, 2001 at 07:32:40 AM PDT
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Always struck me as punk too. If Television was, so are SY.

--Shrug
Now Doing Weddings And Irony
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Cool thing (none / 0) (#24)
by Crazydee (crazydee666@sinfulbutworthyineveryway.com) on Thu Sep 27th, 2001 at 09:26:24 PM PDT
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and the whole Sonic Youth GOO album just does it for me. And Iggy is ......oh,yeah. The Ramones......they are so there that I took a couple of my granddaughters to see them because they are a perfect example. How about kd Lange's cow punk phase? So what! Fuck you!


Now, how much will you pay? But wait, there's more...


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All right, my six (4.66 / 3) (#12)
by Captain Tenille (jeremy@SPAMMAKESBABYJESUSCRYsatanosphere.com) on Wed Sep 26th, 2001 at 06:04:17 PM PDT
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1. Feeding of the 5000 -- Crass

2. The EP/LP -- Subhumans

3. Unknown Pleasures -- Joy Division

4. In the Flat Field -- Bauhaus

5. Let's Give it a Twist -- Fitz of Depression

6. Walk Among Us -- the Misfits.

----

/* You are not expected to understand this. */

I'm not trying to beat a goose to death with a condom full of nickels. -- just joe



Yes, CrAss! (none / 0) (#14)
by Dead Air (deadair3@lycos.com) on Wed Sep 26th, 2001 at 09:38:04 PM PDT
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My biggest oversight in the story was not to include them in either the poll, or my own list. Just today I realized that Feeding of the 5000 should have made my top 6. Once again you expose my weakest points. Obviously you are more punk than me, as you have no hair and lots of tatoos, while I have the exact wrong hair and no tatoos. Damn.

Oddly, I do things other places.
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And how could *I* forget... (none / 0) (#20)
by Captain Tenille (jeremy@SPAMMAKESBABYJESUSCRYsatanosphere.com) on Thu Sep 27th, 2001 at 02:26:55 PM PDT
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Suicide's first album? What's punker than a guy playing a broken down Farfisa and a guy ranting, raving, and attacking the audience with chains? I hear they went on tour with the Clash at some point, and got in a bunch of fights with the Clash fans.

----

/* You are not expected to understand this. */

I'm not trying to beat a goose to death with a condom full of nickels. -- just joe
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alan vega (none / 0) (#33)
by gold tone ranking monkey on Fri Sep 28th, 2001 at 08:26:04 PM PDT
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if you don't have the reissued double cd of suicide's first album, it's worth having for "23 minutes over brussels" alone... it's a recording of suicide opening for (get this) elvis costello; not a lot of love for suicide there - microphones are stolen, a lot of heavily accented "FAWK YOU"s are thrown around, and finally vega starts screaming out "frankie teardrop" a capella. beautiful.

"that's right. one key, several gates, multiple apocalypses."
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Commander Pizza Killa's Top 6 Punk Albums (5.00 / 2) (#15)
by Commander Pizza Killa on Wed Sep 26th, 2001 at 10:07:14 PM PDT
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1. Theatre of Hate -- Who Dares Wins

2. Repo Man soundtrack

3. Conflict -- Conclusion

4. Exploited -- Punk's Not Dead

5. Chron Gen -- The Best Of

6. Discharge -- Why


Commander Pizza Killa Download our CDs for free: http://www.deadairfresheners.com http://www.soundlick.com/chuckswaim



Nice List (none / 0) (#16)
by Dead Air (deadair3@lycos.com) on Thu Sep 27th, 2001 at 03:36:47 AM PDT
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I wish I'd thought of the Repo Man soundtrack. That's one of the best compilations ever.

Oddly, I do things other places.
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Six! Fuck the rules and make it 12 tonight! (3.50 / 2) (#17)
by mayoknave (Francois@goatse.cx) on Thu Sep 27th, 2001 at 05:40:24 AM PDT
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Ok, in no particular order...

1. THE DECLINE OF WESTERN CIVILIZATION soundtrack

2. Pussy Galore - Corpse Love

...can an CD compilation truely be punk? ahh.. Fuck it; it still rules

3. Big Black - Songs About Fucking

...I remember when I took this home from the record store and listened to it for the first time. The pizza delivery guy came and said: "whoa, Big Black"

4. Dead Kennedys - Give me convenience OR give me death

...hmmm... are 'Greatest Hits' punk? Fuck it too.

5. Unwound - Fake Train

...Their LP debut. I was salvating for this record for months before it came out and when it did, it was nothing like what I expected but was so much more.

6. Sonic Youth - s/t 5 song ep

7. God is my co-pilot - I am not this body

8. The Damned - The Damned

9. The first Bikini Kill tape

10. Killdozer - Little Baby Buntin'

... Hi Bob! Hi there!

11. The Thrown Ups - Seven Years Golden

... See the above comments under #'s 2 and 4.

12. Oh yeah, and all those other records that you bastards posted.

fuckers.


Hey look! It's Brooks!



Feed-uh my ego! (none / 0) (#59)
by Pink Noise (daanquaalude@hotmail.com) on Thu Oct 4th, 2001 at 06:29:07 AM PDT
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I'm just going to have second that pussy galore simply for the awesome cover that they did of Einsturzende Neubauten's 'Yu-Gung'. It just fucking rocks.
~
Nag nag nag.
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Starwing's top Six (4.00 / 2) (#21)
by Starwing on Thu Sep 27th, 2001 at 03:43:32 PM PDT
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You forgot to mention GWAR. :P

Joy Division - Permanence
Dead Kennedys - Bedtime for Democracy
Section 25 - the Peel Sessions
the Clash - the Clash
the first "Misfits" album
Viloent Femmes - Violent Femmes (Accoustic Punk... they had a vision)

        S   T   A   R   W   I   N   G
There are 10 kinds of people in the world:
Those who understand binary, and those who don't.



Not a Matter of Memory (none / 0) (#22)
by Dead Air (deadair3@lycos.com) on Thu Sep 27th, 2001 at 04:03:12 PM PDT
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For this story punk/metal or metal-punk or whatever you want to call it is not allowed, and who could deny that Gwar is basically an extention of KISS? There has never been any shortage of headbanging on the Sphere, I'm trying to promote a little hip swinging instead here.

Oddly, I do things other places.
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Great List, Starwing! (none / 0) (#23)
by femmefierce (towncrier@drunkytown.com) on Thu Sep 27th, 2001 at 07:30:02 PM PDT
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I must say I never thought of the brilliant Violent Femmes as "acoustic punk", but now that I think about it...I have Out the Window stuck in my head and realize it's a mighty punk song!

What about T.S.O.L??? I wonder why no one's mentioned 'em...Not punk enough??? Hmm???

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Damn It Woman! (none / 0) (#32)
by Dead Air (deadair3@lycos.com) on Fri Sep 28th, 2001 at 04:23:08 PM PDT
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Where the fuck is your list? We need more females (and undecideds!)putting up their lists!

And everybody don't forget to use the Comment Ratings to rate the lists!

Oddly, I do things other places.
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My Six Punk (4.33 / 3) (#18)
by matt (matt [at] satanosphere dotcom) on Thu Sep 27th, 2001 at 04:40:50 PM PDT
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Though I am a proponent of the globalization of the Sphere, I have to admit many of my fave punk albums are local. But that's the punk I grew up on, and that's the punk I still love, and that's the punk that keeps me here.

  • KARP - Mustaches Wild
  • Unwound - New Plastic Ideas
  • Dead Kennedys - Throb Throb
  • Faith No More - We Care Alot
  • Nation of Ulysses - 13 Point Plan to Destroy America
  • Fugazi - Repeater

    Also, I'm a big fan of the first two KRS comps. And does Bleach count as a punk album?

    _____

    Who has the "Oblique Diary Crown" right now? Rat? Well hand it over, buddy. -Zombified



  • Oh yah (5.00 / 1) (#19)
    by matt (matt [at] satanosphere dotcom) on Thu Sep 27th, 2001 at 04:44:01 PM PDT
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    I also loveg the Mukilteo Fairies first album, but I don't think it had a name. Also, New Bad Things and Heavy Vegetable. They only thing I heard by Dahliah Seed was a 7", but it rocked. And Kicking Giang - Alien ID, but some wouldn't consider it punk. Ah, well.

    Iron Maiden Roolz!

    _____

    Who has the "Oblique Diary Crown" right now? Rat? Well hand it over, buddy. -Zombified
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    There's nothing better than queer hardcore... (5.00 / 1) (#36)
    by Lyra on Sat Sep 29th, 2001 at 12:43:27 AM PDT
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    ...and the Fugazi show I caught here in 1998 was one of the best experiences of my life. Unfortunately, I don't know enough real punk to write out a list :P Perhaps I'll use these posts as listening suggestions...


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    can i get a toot off your respirator? (5.00 / 3) (#25)
    by gold tone ranking monkey on Thu Sep 27th, 2001 at 10:29:37 PM PDT
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    on this day, at this time:

    ALWAYS #1. electric eels _god says fuck you_
    2. chrome _half machine lip moves_
    3. black flag _damaged_ or _everything went black_ (the johnny bob tracks)
    4. stooges 1st album
    5. germs _mia_
    6. nomeansno _wrong_

    honorable mentions to pere ubu's singles, mc5, misfits, ramones, minor threat, flipper, suicide, rudimentary peni, devo, PiL's first 3... and all synthpunk bands, every last dorky one of 'em.

    honorable mentions for single tracks - fitz of depression covering boston's _rock and roll band_. x _nausea_. catholic discipline _barbee doll lust_. johnny thompson quintet _color me columbus_. twilighters _nothing can bring me down_. septic death _quit_. infest _where's the unity_. the dead c _bad politics_.

    blah and blah and blah.
    "that's right. one key, several gates, multiple apocalypses."


    ah shit (none / 0) (#27)
    by severedleopard on Thu Sep 27th, 2001 at 11:01:19 PM PDT
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    i forgot to mention the dead c. and pere ubu in my top six. good choices, i must say!

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    punk's dead fuckers (5.00 / 1) (#26)
    by severedleopard on Thu Sep 27th, 2001 at 10:55:36 PM PDT
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    see shrug's nihilism essay above as intro. to this:

    i. anything by keiji haino. mostly because if you see him live, you'll end up puking due to the sound reverberating all of the cells in your body. never seen him myself, just heard about it. his stuff is virtually unlistenable, songs are 40 minutes long, alienating everyone with sound, noise, unless it's live, of course. then it alienates you to the point of puking. plus, he uses his body violently to play instruments, bangs himself up a lot.punk as fuck.

    ii. sonic youth- evol. come on. the poster has lung leg covered in blood and looking as rabid as ever. punk as fuck.

    iii. sex pistols- nevermind the bollocks. "Fuck this and fuck that Fuck it all and fuck the fucking brat. She don't wanna baby that looks like that I don't wanna baby that looks like that" need i say more? oh yeah, punk as fuck.

    iv. the motels- "all 4 one" because it has the songs "only the lonely" and "he hit me and it felt like a kiss", and the album "little robbers" because it has the song "suddenly last summer". "only the lonely" and "suddenly last summer" are the only karaoke songs i can do, really well. and we all know karaoke is punk as fuck. personally, i think the singer, martha davis, is super hot, judging from the eighties spray-on pics of her on the album covers. next......................................

    v. unwound- the singles album. "this isn't georgia this is tumwater....". this line reminds me of this punk kid who went to tumwater, our beloved high school. every year there's this nativity scene at the lacey mall, it's all lit up with fluffy ephemeral mechanical doll angels playing the harp, cows mooing, and so on. the baby jesus is just a doll, you can't see him as he's swaddled somewhere in the manger. this punk kid from my school stole the baby jesus doll in the middle of the night about a week before christmas. he took it to the capitol campus in downtown olympia, tied a noose around its neck, gouged its eyes out, and hung it from a tree on campus for all the state workers to encounter first thing in the morning. it made the front page of the daily 0, noone knew who did it. punk as mother fuck (although completely, disturbingly insane, makes one worry a little....guess that makes it punk as fuck!)

    vi. bobby conn- rise up! imagine this: a little man, a christian who wears a gigantic american flag as a cape and shakes his booty, who served time for mail fraud, writes little feel-good jesus-christ superstar-esque ditties, only you're listening to it and you're on PCP, or some other god-aweful drug produced in a lab from volatile household cleaning products. warning: very addictive. it's good shit. punk as fuck.



    woo woo (none / 0) (#29)
    by gold tone ranking monkey on Fri Sep 28th, 2001 at 06:34:18 AM PDT
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    i. anything by keiji haino.

    woo! he's the man. i've never seen him live either, unfortunately, but his recordings (especially _watashi-dake_) are some of the most gut-wrenching expositions of cosmic angst this side of jandek's _ready for the house_. plus he looks like roy orbison if he were a japanese dandy.

    vi. bobby conn

    "i don't need no kids and no money!" guy's a fucking genius; no one else could get away with setting the lyrics "you're never gonna get ahead/giving head to the maaan!" to a jackson 5 style backing track.

    where is lung leg now, anyway?

    "that's right. one key, several gates, multiple apocalypses."
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    lung leg, the actress (none / 0) (#45)
    by severedleopard on Sun Sep 30th, 2001 at 11:38:43 AM PDT
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    don't know- i just did a bunch of searching around, and all i found was stuff on the band "lung leg" on kill rock stars. the only stuff i found on the original lung leg was ads to order richard kern videos for $19.95. i became so desperate in my search i even "asked jeeves" "whatever happened to lung leg?" and he replied with a list of links to various sites about human lungs, prosthetic legs, etc.

    nope, she seems to have disappeared completely, at least from cyber space. did she only do the richard kern videos, or was she involved in other artistic endeavors as well?

    [ Parent ]



    where is my lung leg? (none / 0) (#60)
    by gold tone ranking monkey on Thu Oct 4th, 2001 at 07:47:52 AM PDT
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    from an interview with r. kern himself:

    SLR: So what happened to all your old stars? Where's Lung Leg now?

    RK: Lung Leg lives in San Francisco and people from time to time see her. Every time a New York band goes there like Cop Shoot Cop just told me they saw her. And she always goes to the shows. And I heard she looks like a witchy California looking drug culture icon, long dirty hair and dresses like some Gothic rocker. I haven't seen her in so long. She called and said she's moving back here but she never showed up. [...] Lung's the big mystery girl though.

    according to imdb, she's only done the kern movies, which are entertaining enough... "you killed me first!"

    "that's right. one key, several gates, multiple apocalypses."
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    The six I used to listen to (4.50 / 2) (#28)
    by Verminator (vermin@vermination.com) on Fri Sep 28th, 2001 at 02:08:35 AM PDT
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    The Misfits - Walk Among Us

    The Exploited - The Massacre

    The Minor Threat Album that ended with "Stepping Stone"

    Romper Stomper Soundtrack

    Oppressed Logic - Ain't a Damn Thing Changed

    Redemption 87 - Forget which one but it rocked.


    He that hath a beard is more than a youth, and he that hath no beard is less than a man. - Shakespeare



    Odd you mention Romper Stomper (none / 0) (#30)
    by matt (matt [at] satanosphere dotcom) on Fri Sep 28th, 2001 at 09:17:14 AM PDT
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    It's a great film with a great soundtrack, and one that popped into my head last night.

    See, I'm in Salem, OR, on business for a few days. I got kinda bored so I wandered around downtown(!?) Salem for a couple hours last night looking for the "cool place" to hang out. (There isn't one.)

    Failing that, I stumbled into a mall - and a good sized one for such a small town. There was a Nordstrom's and a few other Mall staple stores. But then I walked past a salon staffed entirely by skinheads. Then the Romper Stomper soundtrack popped into my head. At first it was scary, then just plain weird. I mean, who wants a skinhead hair-dresser? I mean, they all shave their damn heads! It was surreal in the most extreme way. And I didn't like it. So I found a bar and drank scotch.

    _____

    Who has the "Oblique Diary Crown" right now? Rat? Well hand it over, buddy. -Zombified
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    best to worst: top to bottom (3.66 / 3) (#31)
    by zuulio (is-on@polyslacks.com) on Fri Sep 28th, 2001 at 12:32:10 PM PDT
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    big black - atomizer
    seaweed - seaweed
    descendents - milo goes to college
    replacements - stink ep
    buzzcocks - spiral scratch ep
    crust - crust
    teengenerate - Get Action!
    jesus lizard - goat
    meat puppets - meat puppets 2

    that's seven, fuck it...


    --= when i am king you will be first against the wall =--


    Uh... (3.66 / 3) (#34)
    by devonuseless (dumbass@icantbelieveisaidthatoutloud.org) on Fri Sep 28th, 2001 at 09:00:45 PM PDT
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    1.) D.R. KNOW - Plug in Jesus

    2.) RKL - It's a Beautiful Feeling 7 inch

    3.) Poison Idea - Feel the Darkness

    4.) the Clash - London Calling

    5.) Crass - Feeding of the Five Thousand

    6.) Dayglo Abortions - Feed Us a Fetus

    "I'm tryin'/I'm tryin' to/Drink away the part of the day that I cannot sleep away"



    #1 (1.50 / 2) (#35)
    by Quacky (quackyATsatanosphereDOTcom) on Fri Sep 28th, 2001 at 09:14:59 PM PDT
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    The Fall

    Dingwall's

    Camden Town

    London

    1997

    --

    and the night before that Thee Headcoats, b/w The Headcoatees @ The Garage, same neighborhood...

    ---
    "Idle hands spend time at the genitals...and we ALL know how much God hates that."
    --- Old Drippy [ATFH]



    Six means I have to use the other hand (4.33 / 3) (#37)
    by TrinityTestSite on Sat Sep 29th, 2001 at 09:01:22 AM PDT
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    thumb: Sex Pistols - Never Mind the Bollocks
    index finger: Clash - London Calling
    middle finger: Dropkick Murphys - The Gang's All Here
    ring finger: Jesus Lizard - Show
    pinky: MxPx - Let it happen
    other middle finger: Helmet - Meantime

    No, Helmet isn't strictly punk, but it was/is fresh air to a tired scene. And THAT'S punk.



    What I liked in the 80's (3.00 / 2) (#38)
    by Wilson (wilson_lizardking@hotmail.com) on Sat Sep 29th, 2001 at 12:28:35 PM PDT
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    In no particular order. 1. Nine Inch Nails 2. Mojo Nixon + Skid Roper 3. The Violent Femmes 4. Tones on Tail 5. The Dead Kennadys 6. The Butthole Surfers 7. Art of Noise 8. Siouxsie and the Banshees 9. Crazy 8's 10. Ramones 11. Skinny Puppy 12. UB40 13. REM 14. Lauri Anderson I listened to the Happy Death Ritual Show. I never liked The Cure myself, but I am surprised no one has mentioned them. I don't know, maybe I was born too late to be 'punk'.



    not really going to get into this one but.... (4.50 / 4) (#39)
    by tapherlight on Sat Sep 29th, 2001 at 02:43:05 PM PDT
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    Having a real hard time with this one. I mean best in my taste, or most influential best, where even to begin. Sigh. I thought about this alot and came to some conclussions. I have to just go with my taste because if I don't I'd have to include the most important punk album ever, Bleach by Nirvana, and I just can't get myself to do that. So I'm approaching this in a different way, bear with me. Punk is unique because it can be a musical style or a moral standing. I'm going with the high moral ground on this one. Punk to me is about liking and doing whatever the fuck (had to cuss, its punk too) you want to and not giving a rats ass what anyone thinks about it. So with this babble in mind, here goes my half assed attempt..... 1. The Decline of the Western Civilization Part I...2. X/Los Angeles.....3.The Clash/the Chash...4.Buzzcocks/The singles...5.Motorhead/Ace of Spades...6.Dr. Dre/The Cronic...and 7. just cause I'm more punk than you, Iggy Stooges entire life...so there. If you don't like my answers got get fucked!ttfn...and Matt really is gay you know.

    ..........One, two, three, four, I declare a thumb war.



    Punk In My Internet (4.00 / 1) (#40)
    by Jonah Hex on Sat Sep 29th, 2001 at 06:32:37 PM PDT
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    It's Hard for me to pick favorite albums since I grew up for part of my life in a place where it was pretty exotic to be listening to Duran Duran let alone the Dead Kennedys. But If forced to pick my favorites(in no particular order): 1)The Clash - London Calling 2)Propaghandi - How to Clean Everything 3)Ramones - Ramones 4)Descendents - Somery (a greatest hits album, but it would be hard to pick just one album. Besides I think Milo et awould want you to spend your money on coffee.) 5)Nirvana - Bleach I know it may not be "punk" but I have so many great "fuck you world" memories associated with it. My fondes being the summer Matt and I would ride around Tumwater on our bikesand a bike stereo we had ricgged out of a walkman and a little, battery powerd practice amp. As we rode through our neighborhood, whole mobs of kids who rode our bus, and already thought Matt and I were gay, yelled at us "FUCK YOU FAGGOTS, FUCKING QUEERS." All while the summer sun beat down. Later during the school year, our bus drive would bring a little stereo on the bus for the kids to play music on. It was always a battle to get the radio first. If the popular kids got it the it was "Rump Shaker" all morning, but if Matt, or Chris Smith or I got it, we would listen to Punk or Metal. Needless to say, if we got the radio, there was no end to the shit we got. It was then, listening to Bleach, over and over, that I realized, "If people are going to be pricks about the music I listen to,fuck them, I care a hell of a lot more about the music than about these fucking redneck homophobes. Kick my ass at the school dance, just let me here the goddamned songs." I still feel that way about music.



    bleach (none / 0) (#51)
    by severedleopard on Mon Oct 1st, 2001 at 05:31:48 PM PDT
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    tapherlight mentions "bleach" in his list as well. it's a great album, worthy of the title "punk" in my opinion.

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    Me Too. (none / 0) (#53)
    by Dead Air (deadair3@lycos.com) on Mon Oct 1st, 2001 at 09:54:45 PM PDT
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    It opens up a can of worms, since they worshipped the Melvins who in turn worshipped Kiss and Black Sabbath, but Bleach is not really a metal album in any way, and if "Negative Creep" isn't punk, then I'll go ahead and quit smoking pot.

    Oddly, I do things other places.
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    I ain't punk (none / 0) (#41)
    by doughbot (diewithbootson@home.com) on Sat Sep 29th, 2001 at 08:07:23 PM PDT
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    Can someone please tell me how the fuck Iron Maiden got dragged into all this? I have listened to punk and to metal, and haven't had too much trouble separating the two. I've never considered Maiden to be on the punk-tip, so I don't see what the fuck it matters to ask Maiden lovers to prove how punk they are. C'mon everybody, why ya gotta dis the Maiden? I don't have a list, but I was sure psyched to see Nomeansno on someone else's.



    Well I already explained... (none / 0) (#42)
    by severedleopard on Sat Sep 29th, 2001 at 09:47:10 PM PDT
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    ...But I'd be happy to again.

    Up to this point, there has not been a lot of writing on Satanosphere about music period. When there has it has invariably been about metal, usually being written by people who do call themselves punk. Now I know that the two are often overlapping, I've been a diehard Motorhead fan since at least '85, I still appreciate the first few Metallica albums, and actually the first two Maiden albums were quite punk influenced. Nonetheless, I thought it was time to test the mettle not the metal of Satanosphere "punks." Knowing that Iron Maiden is the most sacred cow of both the Satanosphere admins, and quite a few other boys on here, I attacked them to stir shit up in a punk, hopefully not troll fashion. My entire story is written in a satirical fashion that is meant to make fun of punk, metal, Satanosphere, the author (who is after all a long-haired pot smoker who could never qualify as punk,) and the readers.

    Regardless if you like Maiden, or even fucking White Lion, I am very happy to see so many people writing about their experiences with a lot of really great albums, that's what I hoped would happen. That is all.

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    Yes, I'm a Complete and Utter Moron... (none / 0) (#43)
    by Dead Air (deadair3@lycos.com) on Sat Sep 29th, 2001 at 09:53:10 PM PDT
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    ...And yes, I need to get my own computer, so that I stop accidentally commenting on other people's computers when they are logged in. SL obviously didn't write that, I did. Urgh...

    Oddly, I do things other places.
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    Hmmmm... (5.00 / 2) (#44)
    by doughbot (diewithbootson@home.com) on Sat Sep 29th, 2001 at 11:16:04 PM PDT
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    well... ok. Point taken, so here we go, in no particular order. #1 Nomeansno: Why Do They Call Me Mr. Happy? #2 Patti Smith: Horses #3 Blondie: Eat to the Beat #4 Devo (yeah, I'm not all that sure about this one either, but...): Are We Not Men? We are Devo! #5 Bikini Kill: The first two albums #6 Sonic Youth: Bad Moon Rising



    Damn... (none / 0) (#46)
    by Dead Air (deadair3@lycos.com) on Sun Sep 30th, 2001 at 03:45:38 PM PDT
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    I'm not sure that you are not me in an alternate reality. My list was intentionally geared towards all time punk greats rather than my personal life changing records, but you've nailed 3 1/2 of them. Bad Moon was my first non-AOR album back in '85 (my senior year of high school) and sent me spiralling on a path of no return. I owe SY for getting into the Ramones and the Stooges and just about everything else. Why Do They Call Me Mr. Happy? was one of my two biggest divorce albums back in '95 when I graduated from Evergreen and got dumped (the other was In Utero.) Eat to the Beat is definitely my favorite Blondie album or maybe tied with Plastic Letters or maybe tied with No Exit. Anyway, "I'm not living in the real world" is a total theme song. I recently got to play the '45, which is way punkier in the juke box at Bob's Java Jive in Tacoma. I'm a bit more of an Easter man, but Horses is my second favorite Patti album. I based my singing style on Kathleen's on "White Boy" though no one can tell...

    Oddly, I do things other places.
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    A boy at the sphere who gladly says Maiden fucking (1.00 / 1) (#47)
    by tapherlight on Sun Sep 30th, 2001 at 04:47:47 PM PDT
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    SUCKS!!!! Always has, always will. Bunch of cum bubbles if you ask me. Now to the real point. I hate you all with every fiber of my being. You all reminded me of far to many things I blocked out of the 80's "faggot" car passing days and usually having the butt rockers trying to kick your scrawny skate punk ass. As if the jocks were'nt bad enought. So anyway, as I come unglued, stay tuned for more dumbass remarks on all the shit you guys are spewing. I think I need to write it all down first though, I'm getting over whelmed. PS thank god someone mentioned Killdozer and Big Black!!!!!!Finally.

    ..........One, two, three, four, I declare a thumb war.



    Oooooh (none / 0) (#48)
    by matt (matt [at] satanosphere dotcom) on Sun Sep 30th, 2001 at 04:53:02 PM PDT
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    The Tapherlite Troll is on the loose! Careful, Heshers and Former Heshers alike!

    _____

    Who has the "Oblique Diary Crown" right now? Rat? Well hand it over, buddy. -Zombified
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    Gotta Argue... (none / 0) (#50)
    by Dead Air (deadair3@lycos.com) on Sun Sep 30th, 2001 at 05:33:16 PM PDT
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    ...With the "always has" part. Have you honestly heard any of the first two albums, before Bruce Dickinson became the singer (he started on Number of the Beast, which was definately his best effort, but still a big step down)? My opinion of Maiden is that they were pretty damn cool and an interesting metal/punk crossover up until '82 or so and have been on a downhill slide ever since.

    Oddly, I do things other places.
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    Maiden sucks cock! (none / 0) (#49)
    by tapherlight on Sun Sep 30th, 2001 at 05:01:50 PM PDT
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    Break out the bats boy's and girls. Now that I'm not a 80 lb weakling I'm gonna whooop some long deserved ass. Yeah I know. I have issues.

    ..........One, two, three, four, I declare a thumb war.



    maiden (none / 0) (#52)
    by severedleopard on Mon Oct 1st, 2001 at 05:37:38 PM PDT
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    maiden just makes me laugh, as does judas priest, as does slayer, the same way yes and rick wakeman make me laugh. honestly. it's complete, over-the-top unabashed self-indulgence. i'm glad they all exist for the comedic value of it all.



    Anarchy in the YMCA (5.00 / 2) (#54)
    by Pink Noise (daanquaalude@hotmail.com) on Tue Oct 2nd, 2001 at 08:58:50 PM PDT
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    Pretty impertinent subject line, sorry. I just thought of it and laughed, so I had to use it.
    Here're my favorite 'punk' records:

    Nurse With Wound - Homotopy to Marie

    Current 93 - Dog's Blood Rising

    Throbbing Gristle - Second Annual Report

    Whitehouse - New Britain

    Swans - Filth

    Big Black - Songs About Fucking

    I know that I neglected to mention some of my other punk icons.. Like Masonna, Antonin Artaud, Diamanda Galas and the Vienna Aktionists; but now I did. So all is right with the world.
    Nag nag nag.


    Actually Your Title is Way Relevant. (5.00 / 1) (#56)
    by Dead Air (deadair3@lycos.com) on Wed Oct 3rd, 2001 at 03:41:56 PM PDT
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    You didn't list Cabaret Voltaire, but guessing from your other choices you probably dig them. Their first album was the first Rough Trade l.p. ever and was recorded live in a YMCA. It came in a white cardboard sleeve with nothing on it but a rubber stamped title with the date ('79 I think.) We've got a copy at KAOS, complete with original press release, and I play it all the time.

    Oddly, I do things other places.
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    Sex, Money, Freaks! (none / 0) (#58)
    by Pink Noise (daanquaalude@hotmail.com) on Wed Oct 3rd, 2001 at 07:37:33 PM PDT
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    I'm gonna stop going into work on wednesdays, just so I can listen to your show. You get extra points in my book for playing SPK AND Nurse With Wound for me in the SAME NIGHT! And you said that I was one of those people who "gets it" before you played the NWW track. I felt all warm and fuzzy. But duckhugger almost took your 'mike's favorite KAOS dj' crown when he played a pineal ventana track for me when he covered your show. While I'm here, could you tell the strange attractors guy to play something besides free-jazz and acid mothers temple? lol. I want to get burnt out on those things on my own time. And I do indeed dig Cabaret Voltaire. Until they went down the same unfortunate path of TG and SPK; dance music. blah.
    In closing, play more whitehouse and look out for chem-trails!
    xoxoxxx
    pink noise
    Nag nag nag.
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    who would have guessed (3.50 / 2) (#55)
    by CourtneyB on Wed Oct 3rd, 2001 at 03:16:38 PM PDT
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    sorry it took a few days for me to catch on:

    1. Bikini Kill/Huggy Bear split 12"...oh the summer I ran down the driveway a hundred times a day to make sure my records didn't arrive and get warped waiting for me to open them...oh how bikini kill saved my fuckin life in high school...if I hadn't been sexually assaulted while my "friends" were listening to Pussywhipped downstairs I might like it more, but that would leave out Huggy Bear who were always beyond brilliant

    2. Red Cross s/t...the first two pressings of this are my most treasured punk records period.

    3. Lemonheads "Hate Your Friends"- "You've got problems you can't solve, it's enough to make you start to hate your friends...."

    4. Ramones-Ramonesmania (as far as I'm concerned that's all I need.

    5. Whatever Misfits tape was in Dan McGarrigan's car in high school. While I'm almost anti-Misfits, on Robert Smith's 36th birthday we had 14 kids in the back of Dan's van driving back from a punk show in Philly. Keith was masturbating on a dare but too drunk to come. Zoe was ignoring me. Amanda was kissing me. Sarah B almost sat on Keith's face for encouragement. Dan (who is missing both legs) couldn't turn around to see the car behind us and backed into a cop. Luckily, for us, the cop was drunk when he got out of the car to yell at us. When we finally got home I gave Zoe a mohawk. Best night ever.

    6. the Dead Milkmen- The first punk tape I ever got from a cook at the resturant where my mother worked. A gleeful reminder in my adult life of the teen weekends when going down to South Street and trying on s/m gear at Zipperhead was the coolest thing to do



    You've Put Me in a Quandry... (none / 0) (#57)
    by Dead Air (deadair3@lycos.com) on Wed Oct 3rd, 2001 at 03:46:48 PM PDT
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    As the first person to list Red Cross, I would undoubtedly have rated you a five. Not to mention the first actual riot grrl to post a list. But you went and mentioned the Lemonheads, which should be an automatic 2 point deduction. I guess I'm going to have to give you extra credit for keeping the zine library alive all this time and call it a four.

    Oddly, I do things other places.
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    Dan the man (none / 0) (#63)
    by jimbob on Wed Nov 27th, 2002 at 04:01:48 PM PDT
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    Since I have nothing better to do today at my cushy temp job, I've been searching the internet for info on friends from my past with whom I've lost contact and - lo and behold! - I found this post concerning Dan McGarrigan. During senior year in highschool I was in a brief re-incarnation of Radiation Children with Dan, Keith and Monique (?) which lasted maybe three rehersals. I was the nerdy, shy drummer, just thrilled to be hanging out with cool kids for once. I'll never forget the time we practiced in my garage - Dan was screaming "I'm fuckin insane!" over and over again. I found out later that my parents and next door neighbors could hear evey word. The look on mom's face was classic. I don't know if I ever met you in school, but just wanted to say "hi" If you know what's up with Dan, I'd love an update. I'm living in Minneapolis, playing with some friends in a dumb garage-rock/proto-punk band, learning filmmaking, and solo-recording noise and experimental stuff. Thanks for drawing my attention to satanoshpere - it helped kill my boring day.

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    I've had some personal reflection time (none / 0) (#61)
    by Paul Shrug (paulshrug@YourSadCareerAsASpammer.gmail.com) on Wed Nov 7th, 2001 at 01:10:57 PM PDT
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    This is my updated list, and I've decided to make it 11. Stop me. Go ahead. Try.

    1. London Calling - The Clash
    2. The Great Rock 'n' Roll Swindle - The Sex Pistols
    3. Fun House - The Stooges
    4. The Ramones
    5. New Day Rising - Husker Du
    6. Singles Going Steady - Buzzcocks
    7. Fresh Fruit For Rotting Vegetables - Dead Kennedys
    8. We Are the League - Anti-Nowhere League
    9. Repo Man - Soundtrack
    10. The Clash
    11. Reject All American - Bikini Kill

    Honorable mention, single division: "30 Seconds Over Tokyo," Pere Ubu.

    --Shrug
    Now Doing Weddings And Irony



    Oh, shit. (none / 0) (#62)
    by Paul Shrug (paulshrug@YourSadCareerAsASpammer.gmail.com) on Wed Nov 7th, 2001 at 01:15:04 PM PDT
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    After all that brouhaha, left the NY Dolls off the list after all... aw, put 'em at #7-1/2.

    --Shrug
    Now Doing Weddings And Irony
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